SB Back in the day, in 2002, 2003. And then I worked my way through in different industries, services, affiliate marketing, and then publishing with WP Beginner, and then List25, and then software after that.
LR So if you could go back and give yourself a piece of advice back then about your career, what advice would you give?
SB I would say get into software faster because, you know, service clients often were one-off projects, larger ones, you know. You retain some, but it was nothing like the recurring revenue that you get with software. So if I could go back, it doesn't have to be software, any business that generates recurring revenue.
LR Recurring revenue's the gold.
SB That would be, that would be my number one advice to me at fourteen years old. Hey idiot, stop doing these one-off projects. Go build a recurring revenue stream.
LR That would have been the jam.
LR Absolutely. So if you were then able to zip into the future and look back on your career and think about what your legacy was, what would you like that to be? What is that all about for you?
SB I wanted to make a huge impact on education.
LR On education?
SB Absolutely, because I come from a poor country in Pakistan, right? You know, some parts are richer than others, but overall, you know, it's not America. And I think education was the biggest thing for me. So one of the things that we do at WP Beginner is 100% free intel education. On our birthday, you know ... July 4th, that's when I started it ... we do big donation campaigns, we raise money and support charities like Pencils of Promise or the Cambodian Village Fund, which is going out and building schools in areas where they don't have schools, they don't have education. Because I think, you can give somebody money or a donation of food, and they'll eat for one day. But if you teach the kids, educate them, then even if one out of the hundred kids do something, that to me is the best thing.
LR Yeah, good. So what do you think it means to be a modern entrepreneur?